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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jul 2, 2011 10:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: apology to hseamons

"Can I share my work and ideas here like anybody else without being shot down"

After reading that statement I realized that regardless of how I might feel about your lack of humility,this is not the place nor is it my place to take you to task on that.Some of my comments were mean spirited and unnecessary,and for that I apologize.I would hope you are comfortable sharing your work and thoughts here in the future,especially since you actually produce something people enjoy listening to as opposed my tossing off some opinions.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 2, 2011 11:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

Although I still think that H. Seamons was taking the mickey from start to finish, I nonetheless applaud the generosity of your post and the spirit in which it was written. And I assure you I'm not being in the tiniest bit sarcastic.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 2, 2011 11:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

And I just want to assure you that I am telling the truth. Honestly.

Check the review, (2nd one down)

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1985-07-01.mtx.seamons.94681.sbeok.flac16

You are an instigator CH! I bet you where LOA'ing last night. So little, for so much.

Mix in my brief remark, and we may have some realism to the grand display, Rob. Although, I'll take your presentation since I have already been bent to your will. You have a gleam in your eye too though ....


http://tinyurl.com/yg6uzyp

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Poster: hseamons Date: Jul 3, 2011 3:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

Now that I feel free and that I am actually in a safe space to share my thoughts ;) :

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/751/thothwandseightfull.jpg

I'm not much of a Tarot card reader, but I was amazed to find an image from the Thoth deck - of all decks - that illuminates the ideas I was exploring in the "Matrix Sound Structure" essay. The image shows the octahedral diamond with eight directional lightning bolts over it. To me this represents the eight-dimensional nature of the Four Winds - and of the matrix sound structure - and the Male/Female polarity is indicated by the symbols at the top of the card. Then there's the rainbow image, which recalls the subsequent discussion regarding double-rainbow color polarity. Weird synchronicity here.

Here is a helpful quote I found on the meaning of the image:

"There is a card, the Eight of Wands [Winds?], that has always fascinated me a bit. This is one of those Thoth cards where the meaning is a little different than the 'traditional' Tarot interpretation. The Thoth card shows eight stylized lightning bolts in a spoked-wheel motif. Thoth says it refers to the phenomena of speech, light, and electricity. By extension, in today's parlance you could add email, internet, satellite, or any of a number of technologies where 'speed-fire' is involved."

Moreover, while I mentioned Thoth as being traditionally associated with the Four Winds, the deity is even more associated with his "Company of Eight" (the Ogdoad) - four pairs of divinities or divine powers, each a syzygy of male and female powers, positive and negative, active and passive - which were involved in the creation of the world. Perhaps the Four Winds are the embodiment of these four divine unions, symbolically, since both are involved in creation and the management of it? This would correspond perfectly to the Male/Female polarity of the Four Winds - and of the matrix - that I discussed in the essay, where each Wind has a Male and Female counterpart.







This post was modified by hseamons on 2011-07-03 22:16:13

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Poster: splue Date: Jul 2, 2011 1:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology in advancie

i find this whole thread fassinating!!!! & totaly wtf!!
that's why i subscribe 2 this forum/ u nvr kno what will happen/ sorta like reality teevee/ without the teevee


i heard talk about ice cream but i nvr heard the van

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 2, 2011 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology in advancie

The Emperor of Ice-Cream

Call the roller of big cigars,
The muscular one, and bid him whip
In kitchen cups concupiscent curds.
Let the wenches dawdle in such dress
As they are used to wear, and let the boys
Bring flowers in last month's newspapers.
Let be be finale of seem.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

Take from the dresser of deal,
Lacking the three glass knobs, that sheet
On which she embroidered fantails once
And spread it so as to cover her face.
If her horny feet protrude, they come
To show how cold she is, and dumb.
Let the lamp affix its beam.
The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream.

- Wallace Stevens

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Poster: splue Date: Jul 2, 2011 1:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology in advancie

i like sayin concupiscent curds

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Poster: hseamons Date: Jul 2, 2011 12:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

Hey, thanks jerlouvis. I appreciate the kind words. No hard feelings. I suppose some of my heavy outburst yesterday was in part the result of feeling somewhat ridiculed by a few heavy-handed remarks over the months...years...but I have learned to take everything said here with a grain of salt and/or humor and separate the chaff from the wheat. Luckily I have built up enough esteem to not cry over anything...well, except for when I started crying yesterday. But it's all water under the bridge now, as part of the great river of IA forum life. And so, in closing, I will leave you with some recent, inspirational words spoken that seem to fit what I am trying to say best:

"What I do want to tell you today is, thank you...I celebrate...[tears]...I celebrate the fact that today [after four years of meeting on these forums] I can with full confidence come to you and just say those two words: thank you. Thank you for not being...[sigh]...thank you for me never doubting that you are not driven by blind hatred, or motivated by rage. I don't have to tell you not to kick your drink on somebody's wife's back. You'd never do it. I know who you are...Thank you."

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 2, 2011 1:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

I don't know that we've interacted before, but I recall having a "discussion" about this general notion with Charlie Miller, and my two cents worth for him, and by extension, you, would be that like anyone in the "creative arts biz" (a stretch, but sure you'll agree there's some similarity), you "should" do all of this for you, and you alone, with the sharing (and associated good/bad responses) as a "bonus".

Charlie didn't like it, and you may not either. I appreciate that "shoulds" are always dangerous discussion points, and I certainly have no special status to provide such comments with any more authority than the next twit round here.

In the end, my point is the positive and negative feedback more or less comes with the territory.

Hang in there...

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 2, 2011 1:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

The next twit takes the stage...

I take your point that the artist should ideally follow his/her muse and not the ker-ching of the cash register and the uncritical accolades of the great unwashed, but it's a rare kind of toiler at the coalface of creativity who doesn't want to see their efforts rewarded, or at least acknowledged, in some way. Anyone pretending otherwise is just being disingenuous or naive.


Pertaining to our discussions elsewhere, and with regard to subsequent postings, maybe whacked wasn't so far off the mark after all...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 2, 2011 1:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

Absofrickinlootly.

IE, my advice, in the abstract, isn't something I take all that often myself (re: I am more sensitive than most...if you don't say that post of mine was the best you've read, well...you ain't seen whacked just yet!).

I just like saying it cause everyone always spouts off about why they are creative sorts, and then they complain about anything that isn't positive feedback when the reality is you have to more or less expect it when producing the product.

For just the reason you pt out, I'd have changed career paths long ago if I hadn't been lucky (good?) enough to get the requisite pats on the back to keep me going!

;)

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Poster: splue Date: Jul 2, 2011 1:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

u rang?? LOL

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 2, 2011 1:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

Come on in, spluebella - plenty of room for another one.

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Poster: splue Date: Jul 2, 2011 2:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

i would staynplay but my folks always warned me bout the man in the ice cream van lol

hav a great thread robthewordyguy/peace

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jul 2, 2011 1:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

Thank you gentlemen.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 2, 2011 1:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re:no apology from hseamons

What a bizarre display yesterday and today. Tedious.
Where are Charlie's, one of the GEMS folks or Josh Braveman's complaints about how I commented about their sources? Should no one use your sources if they are going to comment on them publicly? (Unless they are glowing praise, I'm sure.)
Melodramatic waste of my time.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 2, 2011 2:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Isn't it grand to let off steam!

Angry-man-001.jpg

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 2, 2011 2:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Isn't it grand to let off steam!

I don't like the tie.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 2, 2011 2:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Isn't it grand to let off steam!

Are you really as mean as I've heard?
So mean you're fit to be tied?
Or just tired of the same ol' fit?
Ill-fitted, with a tiresome tie?
Tried to review, tried to be new,
But just tedious, odious and splue?

;)

(with apologies to you know who...I just can't paraphrase worth a snot...and no, I don't think you're mean [Rob induced, redundant qualifier])

Here's someone that's happy:



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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jul 2, 2011 3:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Isn't it grand to let off steam!

I know WT, and you are most gracious.
You did hit the target. Maybe winged it, w/

"Or just tired of the same ol' fit?"

Precious insight. ;-)

btw- Your link didn't link.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 2, 2011 3:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Isn't it grand to let off steam!

It will...takes ~ 8 min, but works now, I tink.

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Poster: Pig Street ! Date: Jul 2, 2011 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

Simply

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jul 2, 2011 1:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to hseamons

Lennon was a malicious, sulky, ill-tempered bastard. Give peace a chance my arse.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jul 2, 2011 2:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: apology to the World

Ha--once again we agree, in spades...have some DVDs of the Dick Cavett show from the early 70s or so, with some of the great R&R musical sorts as guests. Really some great stuff if you have a chance to rent them, do so. In any case, the JL & YO ones are esp long, and esp disappointing (though precisely what the two of us would've anticipated).

I've never seen the attraction, frankly (the masses that seemed so taken with him/her); gakk....I know it may be a near "thread removal offence" to speak ill of the half DEAD, but there you have it.